በኢትዮጵያ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ታሪክ ውስጥ የጠራ መረጃ ከማይገኝባቸው ወቅቶች አንዱ ከ1983 እስከ 1984 ዓም በቤተ ክህነቱ የተከናወነው ታሪክ ነው፡፡ ይህንን ወቅት በሚገባ የሚያሳዩ እና በመረጃ የተጻፉ በቂ የጥናት ውጤቶች አላገኘንም፡፡ በሂደት ግን ይኖራሉ ብለን ተስፋ እናደርጋለን፡፡ እስኪ ያንን ወቅት ከሚያስታውሱን የታሪክ መረጃዎች አንዱን ደበዳቤ እንየው፡፡ በወቅቱ የሲኖዶሱ ጊዜያዊ ሰብሳቢ የነበሩት ሟቹ ብጹዕ አቡነ ዜና ማርቆስ ለብጹዕ ወቅዱስ አቡነ መርቆሬዎስ የጻፉት ደብዳቤ ነው፡፡
Thank you Dani,
ReplyDeleteBut why is this needed at that time. What was behind this letter? That is what we need before judge.
Dn. Dani, it is good evidence. But what is the importance of posting it on this blog?
ReplyDeleteየጠራ መረጃ ከማይገኝባቸው ወቅቶች አንዱ፡፡
ReplyDeleteI don't understand the purpose of posting this. What is the message that you are trying to convey?
ReplyDeleteያቀረብከው ጥሩ መረጃ ነው፡፡ በቂ የሆነ ነገር ያላገኘህበትን ነገር ያለ አስተያየት ማስቀ መጥህም መልካም ነው፡፡ ምናልባት የታሪክ ምሁራን አግኝተው ያብራሩት ይሆናል፡፡ ቢያንስ ግን በወቅቱ ምን እንደ ነበረ ከወሬ ባለፈ መልኩ ያሳየናል፡፡ አንዳንዶቻችሁ አሁን ለምን ማውጣት ተፈለገ ብላችኋል መቼስ ቢወጣ ምን ቸገራችሁ) በተገኘ ጊዜ ይውጣ እንጂ፡፡
ReplyDeleteselam lante wendem betam azenku andaned geze lemin areken maseb endemesanen yegremegnal wendeme daneal ahun seleabene merkoreos yemimelket tsehuf weyem debedabe ezhi lay mawetat hezibun lemekefafel new weyes and lemadereg sew lemastarek bezu yeteral egna degemo yegel felagotachen aletesakamena neger engologelalen lemhonu endezarew ayadergewena yeamerekawen sinodos mulech aderghe setawared alenberem? ahun min tayehe befitem wenten yezhe alenberm malet new kereseteyan beyazew yetsenal selam sebek khy
ReplyDeleteይህ ወቅት ደርግ ፓትርያርክ በመግደልና የቤተክርስቲያንን ነጻነት በመዳፈር የጀመረው የሥርዓት አጥር የመናድ ሥራ ለሁለተኛ ጊዜ በኢሕአዴግም የተጀመረበት መሆኑን የሚያሳይ ነው፡፡ በወቅቱ የነበሩትን ተዛማጅ ውዝግቦች በቅርበት የምከታተል እንደመሆኔ ይህ ደብዳቤ ቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ በውጫዊ ጉልበት ተኮር የመንግሥት አካሄድ እንዲሁም በውስጣዊ ሹክቻ የቄሶክራሲው ክስና መደባዊ ፍትጊያ ምን ያህል ጫና ያደረግ እንደነበር ጠቋሚ ከመሆኑም በላይ ቤተክርስቲያን ዛሬ ለሚታየው የተበላሸ አስተዳደራዊ ውጥንቅጥ የተዳረገችበት መሆኑን ያሳያል፡፡
ReplyDeleteሥርዓትን የሚያውቁ ሰዎች ሥርዓትን አፈረሱ፤
I agree with the last anonymous writer. I wish every preacher focuses on unity.Dn dani you need to give time to listen what other church people(ye tewahedo lijoch)say other than your group.I mean group thinking is sometimes difficult and dangerous because it at least excludes many and creates unnecessary conflicts between brothers and sisters of the same mother. In posting the above letter you explicitly documented Abune Zena Markose's or holy synods notion to the exiled Patriarch (not synod for me personal)Abune Merkoriwoses inability to hold his position as a patriarch back in time.
ReplyDeleteDani we are not interested in our difference any more we rather need ideas and people who work for reconciliation and unity of our church.
We need peace preaching than hate. There no winner or loser in the battle that we are dragged in. Let us unite and strengthen our capabilities to and save our holy church from the obvious theaters such as the tehadsos.
So Dani I need you to know and think about our sisters and brothers who become victims of this conflict. Our mother church lost lot of our people especially in diaspora due to this unnecessary but real conflict. So please let us work on love and reconciliation. Dani we need to stand together to save our mother church, people and country especially at this very moment of history.
Let God bless us in his ever lasting love.
your little one,
ሰላም ዲያቆንዳንኤል እንደምን ከረምክ ያወጣሕውን ደብዳቤ አየሁት በኔበኩል እንዲሁ በተራወሬ እሰማውየነበረውንለማረጋገጥ ጠቅሞኛል ምክንያቱም አቡነመርቆርዮስ ጥለውን ከመኮብለላቸው በፊት እንዲህያለአማራጭ ቀርቦላቸው እንድነበረ አላውቅምነበር ስለዚህይሄ አማራጭ እያላቸው በሀገራቸውላይ ለርሳቸው የሚሆን መጠጊያ አጥተው ነው አሜሪካ ሄደው ቤተክርስቲያንን ለእንደዚህ ያለመከራና መከፋፈል የዳረጉዋት ወይስ ከዚህ የተለየሌላ የተደበቀ ምእመን የማያውቀው ምክንያት ነበራቸው ይቅርታ አድርጉልኝእና እርሳቸውም ከተፈናጠጡት አንዱነበሩ እንዴ ብየ እንድጠይቅ ነው የሆነው ለሁሉም የቤተክርስቲያን አምላከ እውነቱ ያውጣው!
ReplyDeleteDn. Daniel,
ReplyDeleteEgziabhair Yistlin for posting this evidence. I am sure it will clear some doubts about the situation. Evidence is always great, it helps us to pinpoint and speak with assurance instead following roomers or guessing what happened.
In my opinion, there is no specific time for evidence such as this one to come out, it just needs to be publicized to clear out any confusion as soon as its available. If this evidence was available earlier, we would have saved all guessing games about what took place.
At one time at a Gubae, D. Daniel mentioned we need to do a documentary film about the time this situation took place by interviewing the Fathers (Bishops) that were part of the history before they pass so the coming generation would have the real history instead guessing what really happened. I agree with the idea but as he (D. Daniel) concluded his lesson by asking "Who would do this, who is the one that saves history"? I will ask the same thing. I don't this think this was posted to accuse anyone but rather to save history. We should learn from our fathers how to pass history to the next generation, the good or the bad. They didn't have paper and pen but they wrote on stones. Our generation have it easy, if we are lazy to write it we can just record it on a video and post it online, but like he said "Who would do this, who is that one that saves history?"
Ameha Giyorgis
DC Area
Thank you Dn Daniel for being bold enough to show the truth, even though it could be painful.
ReplyDeleteI think this could be one evidence to stop pounding on the never-ending argument of the so called "Synod In Exile" about the legitmacy of Abune Merqorios's resignation. Here we can clearly see that the late Abune Zenamarqos knew the fact but never came forward, actually died with it. The question is, can the group still claim Abune Merqorios's title? I don't think so. Just give it a rest.
I am not crazy about Abune Pawlos either, but he has been appointed by the synod (when Abune ZenaMarqos and Aba Habte(the former Abune Melketsedeq)were still in the synod),for whatever reason. We have to give this issue a final rest and maybe start working for a one and united EOTC.
Melkam Zemene Tinsa'e
Peace,
ይገርማል !!!!!!!!!!! ዲያቆን ዳንኤል ታዲያ እንዳንተ እውነቱን የሚናገር ለተዋህዶ ሐይማኖቱም
ReplyDeleteሆነ ለኢትዮጵያ የሚቆሮቆር ሰው የዚህ ዘመን ሆድ
አምላኩ የራሱን ድሎት እና ስልጣን ላይ ቂጢጥ
ማለት የሚወዱት እንዴት አንተን ይወዱሃል? ወጣት
ሽማሌው ይህን እውነታ ካወቀ አይናችሁ ላፈር ሊላቸው ነው:: የሆነው ሆኖ ምን እንዳስታወስከኝ
ታውቃለህ:: አንድ ግዜ የአሜሪካ ድምጽ ሬድዮ
አዲሱ አበበ ይመስለኛል በእግዚአብሔር ጥሪ የተለዩን ሊቀ ሊቃውንት አያሌውን ቃለ መጠይቅ
ሲደረጉ ይህንን ጉዳይ በደንብ አብራርተው ሲገልጹ
እኔም ይህንን በዲሲ ሚካኤል ቤ/ክ አባቶችን ምሳ
አብልተን የዛሬው አቡነ ፋኑኤል (አባ መላኩ ጌታነህ) ይህንን ፕሮግራም ከ ሟቹ አቡነ ዜና ማርቆስ ጋር ሆነው እያዳመጥን ሳለ ሊቀ ሊቃውንት
ሲኖዶስ እንደማይሰደድ በተለያዩ አዲስ አበባ በሚገኙ አድባራት በደረጉት ስብሰባ ዛሬ አሜሪካ
የከተሙት የስደት ሲኖዶስ መስራቾች በስብሰባው ላይ አንድ ትንፍሽ ሳይሉ አገር ጥለው ወተው ዛሬ
አሜሪካ ህዝቡን ግራ እያጋቡት እንደሆነ ገልጸው
ደግሞስ እራሳቸው አቡነ ማርቆስ እዚህ አልነበሩ
ሲሉ ብጹእነታቸው ከሁላችን መሃል ሹልክ ብለው
ወደ ሌላ ክፍል ገቡ አባ መላኩ ግን ጆሮአቸውን አቅንተው በደንብ ይሰሙ ነበር ይመስለኛል ያን
ወቅት የስደተኛ ሲኖዶስ ጳጳሳት ውስጣቸው መናቆር
ነበር:: ዳኒ ይህ ፕሮግራም በቴፕ የቀዱት ስዎች
አይጠፉም እንደው አንት ካገኘሀው ከዚህ ጋራ
የሊቀሊቃውንት የድምጽ ቅንብር ቢደመር ማልካም
ይሆናል:: አንት ለሃገርህ ሆነ ለኢ/ኦ/ተ/ቤ/ክ የሚገባሃን እያረክ ነው:: ይህ ደግሞ ከምንም በላይ
እግዚአብሔርን ታስደስተዋለህ
እውነት ትዘገይ ይሆናል እንጅ ገሃድ መውጣቷ አይቀርም::
To All Readers,
ReplyDeletePlease don't comment on an article unless you understood it. Before two days I have seen a comment on this page saying '...Daniel ahun min tayeh? kezih befit Aba Merkorewosin tekawumeh neber...hizibun litikefafil asibhe new post yarekew?...' someyhing like that.
ዲ.ዳንኤል ፖስት የሚያረጋቸውን ጽሁፎች በጣም እከታተላለሁ ያባ መርቆሬዎስን ወደ አሜሪካ መኮብለል ደግፎ የጻፈበትን ጊዜ እኔ አላየሁም:: ከላይ የጠቀስኩትን የጻፉት ሰው ዲ.ዳንኤል በዚህ ጉዳይ ላይ የጻፈውን ተመልሰው በደንበ እንዲያነቡት እመክሮታለሁ:: እኔ ጽሁፉን በደንብ አንብቤዋለሁ እርስዎ እንዳሉት ዲ.ዳንኤል ሰዎችን ደግፎ ወይም ተቃውሞ አልጻፈም በዛ ጽሁፍ ውስጥ:: ዲ.ዳንኤል ፖስት ስላረገ ሰዎች በእምነታቸው የተለያየ አቋም አይኖራቸውም:: የሆነ ነገር ሲመለከት ስለ እምነቱ ያለውን አቋም የሚለውጥ ሰው ካለ መጀመሪያም በእምነቱ የጸና አይደለም:: እምነት ፖለቲካ አይደለም በሰዎች አስተያይት የምትቀይረው:: ያባ መርቆርዮስን በተመለከተ ወደ ፕትርክናው በየትኛውም መልክ ይምጡ ለስልጣነ ክህነት የማያበቃ ነገር እስካልፍጸሙ ድረስና ለቤተ ክርስቲያን ጎጂ የሆኑ ነገሮች ለምሳሌ አሁን አባ ፓውሎስ እየሰሩ እንዳሉት እስካልሰሩ ድረስ አዎ መልቀቅ አልነበረባቸውም:: እንዳይለቁ ደግሞ ሚናውን መጫወት የነበረብት ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ነበር:: ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ደግሞ በምንም ምክንያት ይሁን ስልጣኑን እንዲለቁ ካዘዛቸው የግድ መልቀቅ ነበረባቸው:: በቤተ ክርስቲያን ከቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ በላይ ምንም የለም:: ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የወሰነው ሁሉ ሊፈጸም ይገባዋል:: ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ስላዘዛቸው አባ መርቆሬዎስ ስልጣን መልቀቅ ነበረባቸው:: ልክ አደረጉ:: ጥፋት የሰሩት ወደ አሜሪካ ሳይሆን ወደ ገዳም መግባት ነበረባቸው::
Regarding this letter, I assure you that most people who deeply conerned about the church have it at hand. Believe or not, I had this letter before Dn. Daniel posted it on his blog.
So, if you don't have such kinds of informations about the church, you need to learn more about the church (if you are orthodox). I think you are orthodox, that is why you commented on it. If your comment is from poletical point of view, don't worry. This is not poletical issue. The letter is religious issue and the statement above the letter is about historical information in the country.
Mekonnen
ዲ. ዳንኤል፡- እንደምን ሰንብተሀል?
ReplyDeleteያቀረብከው መረጃ ጥሩ ነው በራሱ አንድ ትልቅ የታሪክ መዛግብት ክፍል ነውና፡፡ የቤተክህነቱም መዝገብ ቤትና የአባቶች ሳጥኖችም ቢቆፈሩ ብዙ መረጃዎች ይገኛሉ ብዬ አምናሁ፤ ይገኛሉም፡፡ ጥቅማቸው ግን አንተ ካሰፈርከው ደብዳቤ ጥቅም በላይ ወይም የተለየ እና የተሻለ አይሆንም፡፡
እንደኔ እንደኔ የሰውን የውስጥ መነሳሳት ለመፍጠርና ታሪክን አሳውቆ ታሪክ ሠሪዎችን ወደሥራ ለማሰማራት የሚያግዝ መረጃ ያህል ሰፍሮአል በቂ ይመስለኛል፡፡
በመሆኑም ዛሬ ምን ይዘናል? የትውልዱ አካሄድ ወዴት ነው? ነገ እከሌ ተሾመ እከሌ ተሻረ የምንላቸው አባቶች እናገኝ ይሆን? የነገ አባቶች የዛሬ ዲያቆናት እነማን ናቸው የት ይገኛሉ በምን ሁኔታ?
ስለዚህ እባክህ ዳኒ ባለፈውም ጀምረህ ወደጎን የተውከውን ትውልድን ቀርጾ ትውልድ የሚተካ ትዳርን በተመለከተ እንዲሁም የትዳር ፍሬዎች ልጆችን አሳድጎ ለተገቢው ወግ ማዕረግ÷ ለክህነት ለሹመት በማብቃቱ ረገድ ከወላጅ እና ከሚመለከታቸው ሁሉ የሚጠበቀውን ዓብይ ነገር አቅጣጫውን ብታሳየን ብንወያበትም ይሻላል፡፡
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Please leave our church fathers alone. It is known that our fathers whether in the exiled synod or the homeland synod are far better than us (the so called the young defender of the church) in spiritual life and in their knowledge about the church.
ReplyDeleteDo not we forget that they spent almost their whole life studying in the church? We should respect them and we should not interfere with their authority. As a faithful of the church it is not expected from us to lead the Holy Synod and to comment the Holy Synod activates. By doing this we are making another chaos for the church. Leave the fathers to discuss among themselves. Giving respect to what the synod says is the true character of an orthodox believer. As a faithful we can address any church related problem to the fathers but the ultimate independent decision is for the fathers themselves. It is also not right to influence their decision by any means as some are trying to do it.
I don't understand why you post this. I don't see any use to make this to us public. Do this help us gain anything? absolutely not? Except decreasing our respect not only to the mentioned fathers but to the whole clergy of our church. This thing has passed and so many things has occured.
ReplyDeleteI give one example that I witnessed when I attended a youth conference in USA chaired by His Grace Anba Mousa,Bishop of the youth of the Coptic church. He was asked a question about the how the Late Pope Anba Yousab was removed from the papacy by militant copts. The Bishop quickly cut off the person who asked and said this is matter of church synod and It not necessary to raise such questions"
The Bishop could have elaborated on his questions but He chose not to answer it out of the necessecity of the church and also the youth themselves.
Personally, I long and wish the time when I gave utter reverance and respect from my inner heart and outside let alone the Bishops,priests,deacons but to a lay faithful person worthy of recieving the church Holy sacraments. All this is because,we prematurely went up to the point that we knew everything about the church and now we start critisizing,judging and giving personal opinions out of the idea of defending the church.
I 100% aggree to defend the church if there is any heresy and false teaching. But, the proper channel is to direct it to the church fathers and let them decide. We should completely accept what the fathers say. We should'nt be the judges.
I am saying what I read from the church fathers. I don't know if it was Aba agathon or Aba arasnious that he used to hold a pebble or stone in his mouth not to speak. The reason was as heard it from the interpertation of the church fathers ,this saint lived in the time where there were so many church problems and herecies and many people were taking this and that. so, he did this method to prevent his from saying this and that.
To conclude, personally and some people may share my openion on this that hearing about the church inside administrative problems hasn't helped me. I prefer not to know it.
With all due respect,
One of your followers.
balegewoch yebetkerestyan andeneten sayehon meleyayetn yemtefelgu wetaderoch seyanesachehu new metaged gena min ayachehu chekagn kaderewoch
ReplyDeleteDear D.n Daniel,
ReplyDeleteI really appreciate what you shared; I think such kind of information should not be classified.
Thank you, God Bless you
amazining!!!!this a good evidence that abune poulos elected legaly by kidus synodios!!
ReplyDeleteGod bless u dn daniel!!!
it is not only about the evidence that abune paoulos elected legaley by kidus sinodos.u should have to see in different way like effluence of the government on the sinodos or u can see .....
DeleteThis is agood information !!
ReplyDeleteዳኒ ፖስት ያደረከው ደብዳቤ አይታይም፡፡ ምን ይሻላል
ReplyDeletewow c'mon dani i though aba matyas /now he is canada's arc bishop/ was working as a pariarc @ that dark transition time? anyways we could get informations about that time by asking the fathers who ware at the top position on that time get get some proofs like this!!!
ReplyDeleteወንድም ዲ. ዳንኤል
ReplyDeleteአግዚአብሔር ይስጥልኝ!!! በቃል ስሰማው የነበርኩትን በወረቀት ላይ ለመመልከት ስላበቃኸኝ:: በአውነት የአቡነ መርቆርዮስን በግፍና በጉልበት ከመንበራቸው መውረድ በግልጽ ያስረዳል:: ገፊዎች ባለጠበንጃዎቹና ለአዲሱ ቦታ አራሳቸውን ያሰቡ ወንድሞቻቸውም ናቸው:: ግፍ ተሰራ ብለው መጮህ ያቃታቸውም ነጻ ሊሆኑ አይችሉም:: በዚህ ከተስማማን አባ ጳውሎስም ከገፊዎቹ አረድፍ አናገኛቸዋለን:: ያዳቆነ ሰይጣን አንዲሉ አየው አስከ ዛሬ ያተራምሱታል ደግሞ ይህን ሳምንት ምን ይዘውብን ብቅ ይሉ ይሆን::
hullum inde akmu iyyetereggome 'comment' yist, EWUNETIN LEMMISHU ye Tewahedo lijoch gin tiru merreja newunna 'Than you so much Dn. Daniel!!!!!!
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